In First Contact, City on the Edge of Forever, That Voyager episode w/ Bud from that 70s show as the alien Captain, and the one where TOS Enterprise crew snatch up the Air Force fighter pilot …. they were all going back in time
In A Matter Of Time; the time traveler from the past had stolen a time-travel-pod from the future of both himself and the TNG crew.
In Time’s Arrow; Sam Clements was transported forward from his time using the Devidian’s portal that was time concurrent with the TNG crew.
Is there any Star Trek story where the time travelers go forward in time using technology from their own or a time further back? Or is that a no no?
Captain Archer also went to two distant futures before the time war was over.
The closest instance of using a native time travel device for futureward travel is in the Enterprise season 4 opener. Aliens from the future teach the Nazis how to build plasma weapons, in return the Nazis build a time machine using 20th century materials so the aliens can get back home. Just to note it, the time machine is the size of a huge warehouse.
Josh: Yes. but archer only went as far forward as the time of the technology he was using – or that was using him.
Your example of the aliens returning to their future in Storm Front is different though. It IS using period equipment to go forward in IT’S time. The differences / caveats are that the 1940’s time machine is pushing beings FROM the future back to their future-present, and to a lesser and probably unimportant extent; it’s their technology constructed “using stone knives and bearskins”, from the future, that’s doing the work.
So you found 0.51 of a loophole. In Canon: Things or life forms can return forward (although only back to their own time) using machinery constructed in the (their) past. At least that far and much. Maybe more. Cool. Thanks.
As long as the council believes in temporal predestination they have little reason to care about what goes on with time travel as it will never affect them.
– First Contact.
– City on the Edge of Forever.
– That Voyager episode w/ Bud from that 70s show as the alien Captain.
– I guess the one where TOS Enterprise crew snatch up the Air Force fighter pilot and realize his son will lead a space mission in the future.
This comic is like a mash-up of Star Trek, Twilight Zone, and Single White Female. Sounds like it’s time to give the Kelvans what they want.
. In TNG “A Matter of Time” a 21st century conman from New Jersey goes to the 24th century. He pretends to be a 26th century historian by using the actual historian’s stolen time machine. The funny thing is, even though he pretends to be following a temporal prime directive of sorts, he is there messing around much like the time travelers in this comic.
There is one other instance of going from past to future. In “Time’s Arrow” Samuel Clemens is taken on a tour of the Enterprise-D.
It occurs to me that the predestination of history can be faked by having a galaxy wide temporal shield. In Voyager temporal shields cut off effects caused by alterations to history. Historical changes radiate in waves from the past, as shown in Enterprise, so the shields can be dropped after a wave passes and someone or something which lacks causality can still exist.
Imagine Jin finds out the rate of temporal propagation and arranges for the galactic temporal shield network to shutdown at just the right time. She doesn’t even need to go to the past herself.
Another thought, what if the great barrier of the galaxy is actually the past-ward echo of the temporal barrier!
Cool concept you’ve come up w/ for the Great Barrier. It might explain why the Enterprise was able to do as much time-traveling as it has; breach the barrier, win a prize – time travel til’ the targ come home.
In First Contact, City on the Edge of Forever, That Voyager episode w/ Bud from that 70s show as the alien Captain, and the one where TOS Enterprise crew snatch up the Air Force fighter pilot …. they were all going back in time
In A Matter Of Time; the time traveler from the past had stolen a time-travel-pod from the future of both himself and the TNG crew.
In Time’s Arrow; Sam Clements was transported forward from his time using the Devidian’s portal that was time concurrent with the TNG crew.
Is there any Star Trek story where the time travelers go forward in time using technology from their own or a time further back? Or is that a no no?
Captain Archer also went to two distant futures before the time war was over.
The closest instance of using a native time travel device for futureward travel is in the Enterprise season 4 opener. Aliens from the future teach the Nazis how to build plasma weapons, in return the Nazis build a time machine using 20th century materials so the aliens can get back home. Just to note it, the time machine is the size of a huge warehouse.
Josh: Yes. but archer only went as far forward as the time of the technology he was using – or that was using him.
Your example of the aliens returning to their future in Storm Front is different though. It IS using period equipment to go forward in IT’S time. The differences / caveats are that the 1940’s time machine is pushing beings FROM the future back to their future-present, and to a lesser and probably unimportant extent; it’s their technology constructed “using stone knives and bearskins”, from the future, that’s doing the work.
So you found 0.51 of a loophole. In Canon: Things or life forms can return forward (although only back to their own time) using machinery constructed in the (their) past. At least that far and much. Maybe more. Cool. Thanks.
For god’s sake woman REWRITE HISTORY!!! The Kelvins are the only hope!
The thing Dystopian nightmares are made of. Are you sure she’s in Star Trek and not an episode of the Twilight Zone?
I’m really beginning to suspect the Council has no idea what actually happens in those jaunts to the past.
As long as the council believes in temporal predestination they have little reason to care about what goes on with time travel as it will never affect them.
Jayle; What goes in the past, stays in the past. I guess.
Has it ever been covered, either canon or non-canon, if time travel works into the future?
Seems like that could prevent a lot of trouble.
– First Contact.
– City on the Edge of Forever.
– That Voyager episode w/ Bud from that 70s show as the alien Captain.
– I guess the one where TOS Enterprise crew snatch up the Air Force fighter pilot and realize his son will lead a space mission in the future.
This comic is like a mash-up of Star Trek, Twilight Zone, and Single White Female. Sounds like it’s time to give the Kelvans what they want.
Single pan-sexual female of Japanese descent.
. In TNG “A Matter of Time” a 21st century conman from New Jersey goes to the 24th century. He pretends to be a 26th century historian by using the actual historian’s stolen time machine. The funny thing is, even though he pretends to be following a temporal prime directive of sorts, he is there messing around much like the time travelers in this comic.
There is one other instance of going from past to future. In “Time’s Arrow” Samuel Clemens is taken on a tour of the Enterprise-D.
It occurs to me that the predestination of history can be faked by having a galaxy wide temporal shield. In Voyager temporal shields cut off effects caused by alterations to history. Historical changes radiate in waves from the past, as shown in Enterprise, so the shields can be dropped after a wave passes and someone or something which lacks causality can still exist.
Imagine Jin finds out the rate of temporal propagation and arranges for the galactic temporal shield network to shutdown at just the right time. She doesn’t even need to go to the past herself.
Another thought, what if the great barrier of the galaxy is actually the past-ward echo of the temporal barrier!
Cool concept you’ve come up w/ for the Great Barrier. It might explain why the Enterprise was able to do as much time-traveling as it has; breach the barrier, win a prize – time travel til’ the targ come home.