2016-06-03
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Posted on June 3, 2016 by Mark Farinas
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10 Responses to 2016-06-03

  1. Josh B says:
    July 28, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Thought you might find this interesting!

    http://www.cnet.com/news/proposed-lego-set-honoring-women-of-nasa-wants-your-vote/

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  2. Josh P. says:
    June 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    So, time is self correcting? Trying to prevent something causes it, doing nothing causes it, and helping it fails to make it happen any different. Trek has most styles of time travel, but has yet to do that one.

    Either this is just one more type of time travel going on, or something is afoot.

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    • Erik S says:
      June 3, 2016 at 2:01 pm

      Predestination paradoxes were mentioned, but I can’t recall one being shown happening.

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      • fluffy says:
        June 3, 2016 at 4:10 pm

        Some of these examples are pretty weak but TNG’s “Time’s Arrow” plus some of the Braxton stuff from Voyager should count: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Predestination_paradox

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        • fluffy says:
          June 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

          Oh, heck, “Assignment: Earth” from TOS is definitely one.

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          • Josh P. says:
            June 4, 2016 at 12:26 am

            I could be completely wrong, but the impression I have, though weak conjecture, is the tourist time tampering is something which doesn’t exist in future history until someone goes back. So, less predestination, and more self correction. To a degree, “Assignment: Earth” and Nemesis also fit self correction, because both instances would have worked out in accordance with recorded history on their own if not for future involvement. With that involvement, the time travelers had to put things back in order.

            The conflict we have is with the Guardian, but it involves a unique time travel method. I think the Enterprise Time War might also conflict, in that the present/past of ENT wipes out the future where the Sphere Builders even have a time war. That involves yet another time travel method of nothing but temporal projection of holograms.

            “Future’s End” is also contradictory to self correction and predestination, because Braxton claims the Sol system is destroyed by Voyager. Voyager averts the destruction by Braxton, but also eventually averts that future destruction, thus showing the extreme variability of future history. Over all, Voyager’s crew somehow averted a timeloop. Yet, it also contains predestination/correction since the claim is made that the 20th century computer revolution is due to future tech inspiration.

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • Mark Farinas says:
        June 5, 2016 at 11:23 am

        If you look back at “Peace in Our Time” it’s not really about predestination. That would involve causing something to happen that would never have happened unless you went back. I think JP said it more accurately: self correction. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

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  3. Jon says:
    June 3, 2016 at 9:51 am

    ooh this is getting good

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  4. Jayle Enn says:
    June 3, 2016 at 6:38 am

    I have this terrible mental image of them using the Guardian of Forever as a trash disposal now.

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    • Master Syrron says:
      June 3, 2016 at 6:58 pm

      Well… glad I’m not the only one that considered doing that. *slowly pushes trash can out of sight*

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