Even if this is mind-screwing effects from outsiders, you can’t just magic that opinion out of thin air. It’s like blaming alcohol for calling your boss a wanker.
‘Number One’ likely has a lesser regard of non-officers, the potential mind-buggery merely reinforces it due to whatever stuimulus they’re using.
This reinforces my mental influence hypothesis. That’s just too incompetent for reality, much less a Starfleet captain. Hell, I wouldn’t pull something that stupid and I have -1 Leadership skill.
I hope the crewmen are right… actually, even if the crewmen were wrong, taking the initiative to do something/anything in the face of the utter lack of leadership would be a great training exercise for enlisted crew. A ‘Kobayashi Maru’ scenario – “What do you do if serving onboard a doomed ship where officers destroy all morale? How do you react?” I imagine crew can get this scenario in a holo-deck simulation along with a “Do you follow illegal orders? How do you react?” scenario.
Shooting blind has effectively no chance of hitting anything. Even if there was a ship out there and it tried to closely match vector of the firing vessel, space is still vastly bigger than the target.
Difficult to believe that any Captain could bungle events this badly. To make Captain on a big ship generally requires being in command of a section, then small ship, and generally XO on a big ship. All these tasks require some interaction with and understanding of crew. Complete failure of leadership when the crew has decided the sentences for mutiny and assault are less severe than leaving the captain in charge one second longer. Pumping the air full of any chemical does increase the chances for side effects which with something similar to adrenaline would likely lead to less than ideal judgment.
We have to trust the chief engineer knows what he is talking about when he said the ship would have had to be in visual range. Visual range would have to be less than 100 km, and I think a telescope for space navigation might have a visual angle of less than half a degree. That should place the enemy ship, if there is one, in a very narrow bearing.
People are jumping to a conclusion If all this other stuff is happening, it may be the result of whatever is out there directing the “heatwaves”, general energy dampening field, etc at the ship, and is causing the crew to slowly go mad. Maybe even a side effect, like the interspace phenomena of The Tholian Web, or it could even be another emotion-sucking entity like that of Day of the Dove.
I don’t really think any of us are saying the crewman is necessarily RIGHT, so much as the captain was VERY stupid for blowing it like she did just there. That is some SERIOUS leadership fail.
AeromechanicalAce has it right. Basically everyone is wrong in this situation, or rather the Captain and Mister Mutiny. For some reason the captain alienates the crew every which way, while the crewman has decided the captain cannot be trusted. Neither party seems to be making very good decisions at any point.
Remember when Charles Xavier tells Magneto the soldiers are, “just doing their job,” and it’s the worst possible thing he could have said, especially considering he is psychic and should have known better. This is pretty much up there.
She should know this stuff, she was already an XO, and the XO’s job is primarily concerned with managing the crew, and making sure cargo and fuel are balanced so the ship doesn’t flip over.
Even if this is mind-screwing effects from outsiders, you can’t just magic that opinion out of thin air. It’s like blaming alcohol for calling your boss a wanker.
‘Number One’ likely has a lesser regard of non-officers, the potential mind-buggery merely reinforces it due to whatever stuimulus they’re using.
This reinforces my mental influence hypothesis. That’s just too incompetent for reality, much less a Starfleet captain. Hell, I wouldn’t pull something that stupid and I have -1 Leadership skill.
To quote Dennis, peasant from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, in response to the Captain…
“Oh, what a giveaway!”
I hope the crewmen are right… actually, even if the crewmen were wrong, taking the initiative to do something/anything in the face of the utter lack of leadership would be a great training exercise for enlisted crew. A ‘Kobayashi Maru’ scenario – “What do you do if serving onboard a doomed ship where officers destroy all morale? How do you react?” I imagine crew can get this scenario in a holo-deck simulation along with a “Do you follow illegal orders? How do you react?” scenario.
Shooting blind has effectively no chance of hitting anything. Even if there was a ship out there and it tried to closely match vector of the firing vessel, space is still vastly bigger than the target.
Difficult to believe that any Captain could bungle events this badly. To make Captain on a big ship generally requires being in command of a section, then small ship, and generally XO on a big ship. All these tasks require some interaction with and understanding of crew. Complete failure of leadership when the crew has decided the sentences for mutiny and assault are less severe than leaving the captain in charge one second longer. Pumping the air full of any chemical does increase the chances for side effects which with something similar to adrenaline would likely lead to less than ideal judgment.
We have to trust the chief engineer knows what he is talking about when he said the ship would have had to be in visual range. Visual range would have to be less than 100 km, and I think a telescope for space navigation might have a visual angle of less than half a degree. That should place the enemy ship, if there is one, in a very narrow bearing.
I agree on the other half.
People are jumping to a conclusion If all this other stuff is happening, it may be the result of whatever is out there directing the “heatwaves”, general energy dampening field, etc at the ship, and is causing the crew to slowly go mad. Maybe even a side effect, like the interspace phenomena of The Tholian Web, or it could even be another emotion-sucking entity like that of Day of the Dove.
I don’t really think any of us are saying the crewman is necessarily RIGHT, so much as the captain was VERY stupid for blowing it like she did just there. That is some SERIOUS leadership fail.
AeromechanicalAce has it right. Basically everyone is wrong in this situation, or rather the Captain and Mister Mutiny. For some reason the captain alienates the crew every which way, while the crewman has decided the captain cannot be trusted. Neither party seems to be making very good decisions at any point.
Remember when Charles Xavier tells Magneto the soldiers are, “just doing their job,” and it’s the worst possible thing he could have said, especially considering he is psychic and should have known better. This is pretty much up there.
I meant, “just following orders.”
WOW. That is like… the Doug Neidermeyer school of leadership right there.
Here’s hoping her attitude doesn’t get everyone killed. But if they get out of this, i hope for starfleet’s sake they pull her from command.
yep… shoulda quit while she was ahead.
Oh God why.
“How to win friends and influence people”. It should be required reading at the Academy, along with watching Master and Commander twice.
Seconded. I mean, damn, she had it in the bag!
She should know this stuff, she was already an XO, and the XO’s job is primarily concerned with managing the crew, and making sure cargo and fuel are balanced so the ship doesn’t flip over.